Doctor Movie: Episode 180: The Exorcist 3

Join Rik Morgan in the doctor’s office ( car) for another episode of Doctor Movie! This episode is all about the late bloomer that is finally getting the appreciation it deserves. With its top cast and great performances, its The Exorcist 3, a personal favorite. Haven’t seen this one? We need to fix that asap.. you will find out, its a wonderfull life!

Speaker 1: Wait a minute.

Speaker 1: I hear something.

Speaker 1: Music, music.

Speaker 1: What's going on everybody?

Speaker 1: welcome back to another episode of The Fabulous, the Spectacular, the Top 2000 Podcast Shows in the World.

Speaker 1: I don't know where I stand It's probably less than that, i'm sure But anyways, it's another episode of Doctor Movie with your host, moi myself, rick Morgan, from the Hellming Power Hour.

Speaker 1: This is my other show that I do for fun and I do it while driving my car, in case you can't tell because of all the noise, but I just I love talking about all these movies that I don't really have an outlet anywhere else to talk about, and also checking out the movies that normally I wouldn't get a chance to actually talk about, or it's the stuff that I kind of passed over back in the day.

Speaker 1: You know all those movies that you picked up at the video store and you looked at the artwork and you're like, yeah, i want to see that, but I'd rather see Hellraiser 2 instead.

Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the movies we're talking about, all these kind of lost films or the films that you skipped over.

Speaker 1: Some are left better not seen, and some are pleasant surprises, and this one is kind of special to me.

Speaker 1: So we just talked about the 9th configuration and it made me really want to check out again.

Speaker 1: The mighty Exorcist 3, which in the past 10 years or so has really come on strong with a pretty strong cult following, came out in 1990 and it's obviously the third installment of the Exorcist saga.

Speaker 1: I guess I don't know if I'm really going to ever get into the prequels or really don't know, unless somebody requests me to cover part 2.

Speaker 1: I don't know that.

Speaker 1: I'll talk about it.

Speaker 1: Who knows, It's possible.

Speaker 1: Right, i need to even do the first one.

Speaker 1: I haven't done it yet.

Speaker 1: I'll talk about that some other time and the impact it has.

Speaker 1: But come on Exorcist 3.

Speaker 1: I saw this in the theater when it came out and I was literally I was blown away.

Speaker 1: There was a time period this is late 80s, early 90s had a buddy named Tom Cooper.

Speaker 1: He's passed in the past several years but he and I once a week would go to the theater and check out whatever was playing.

Speaker 1: It was just kind of our weekly get together, hang out.

Speaker 1: He'd always sneak beer into the theater.

Speaker 1: He would wear this army jacket and he would tie off one of the sleeves like he was like a war veteran, like he was missing an arm and that sleeve would be full of a six pack of beer.

Speaker 1: Now I didn't partake, i'm not a drinker whatsoever, but he would sneak in this beer and we would go watch movies and we watched.

Speaker 1: At the time Brad Derriff seemed to pop up in a lot of stuff, right?

Speaker 1: So these are the memories I have when I talk about these movies and also Graveyard Shift, and there was a lot of stuff we went and seen together.

Speaker 1: The 1990 version of Night of the Living Dead I saw with Tom.

Speaker 1: We had some really, really good times together And this is one of those films we went and seen and I was just floored.

Speaker 1: And so, if you don't know, 1990, horror, psychological horror, and I think that's what really made it stand out, because first thing you think of, the exercise you think of is the first thing you think, think of all the effects and the grossness and all this stuff which we will talk about when we get to the actual actresses sometime.

Speaker 1: But this one is so different And I love the idea.

Speaker 1: I remember this is based on the book that William Peter Badley wrote called Legion, which I was.

Speaker 1: I would say this is probably 88, 89 is when I actually saw the book at a friend's house and picked it up and got a reading it And it was this story that tied into.

Speaker 1: You know the exorcist story And you know lo and behold.

Speaker 1: Of course, if you know your Bible enough, legion is you know the demons that Jesus cast into the swine, right?

Speaker 1: He asked who the demons were and it said what its name was it's Legion for we, or many, right.

Speaker 1: So I was like, wow, that's pretty interesting that we're going to run with this, right.

Speaker 1: And it's about Father Charis from the first movie wandering on a beach and gets picked up and the story kind of goes from there.

Speaker 1: So you know, he jumped off, he jumped out the window and the end of the exorcist, rolled down the stairs and died supposedly.

Speaker 1: But the demons that are in him are keeping him alive and all these years later he's found And they kind of took that and ran with it.

Speaker 1: I mean, will see.

Speaker 1: Let's read the synopsis, which is going to be a very long one, but you know what It deserves it.

Speaker 1: The police lieutenant Kenderman, which is George C Scott hello another selling point for me Notices similarities between his current murder investigation and the methods used by the Gemini killer who's played by Brad Derriff, who was executed.

Speaker 1: 15 years before Soon, he discovers the hospitalized mental patient, which is Jason Miller, father Charis, claiming to be the dead serial killer, but looks uncanny like the priest a priest, kenderman who died during an exorcism.

Speaker 1: As more bodies are found, kenderman looks for connections between the two supposed dead men.

Speaker 1: Yeah, i mean, what twist and turns.

Speaker 1: And Brad Derriff, at this point, right, this is where everybody started paying attention, right, because you know he was an Academy Award winning actor.

Speaker 1: He had done spontaneous combustion with Tobias Hooper, which is kind of a lost film.

Speaker 1: I need to cover that sometime.

Speaker 1: And I don't know, of course, the Chucky thing.

Speaker 1: I mean, things are really taking off with him.

Speaker 1: He's really starting to get in all these flicks, right, everybody started wanting him in And come on, let's talk about it, right, i mean, brad Derriff's performance in this movie is just incredible.

Speaker 1: It really is.

Speaker 1: I mean, you know me, i'm all about George C Scott, pretty much my favorite actor, and he's George C Scott.

Speaker 1: The greatness and the bad part of George C Scott is he's George C Scott, you're not going to get anything different.

Speaker 1: Well, he did patent, right, but for the most part, he's George C Scott, no matter what he's in, who else we got here Jason Miller, we talked about that.

Speaker 1: Brad Derriff, ed Flanders right, we just talked about him in the ninth configuration.

Speaker 1: Nick O'Williamson Nick O'Williamson is an Excalibur, he's Merlin, and I just remember being totally blown away by his performance in that.

Speaker 1: Nancy Fish, who's in a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1: Scott Wilson again is in this one.

Speaker 1: Dr Temple, which we just talked about him as well.

Speaker 1: Patrick Ewing is in this movie for a little cameo, and you know, this goes on and on, but your heavy hitters are the top three George C Scott, jason Miller and Brad Derriff.

Speaker 1: That's what you spend the majority of the movie with.

Speaker 1: Yeah, the George C Scott's team is looking for somebody.

Speaker 1: That's a copycat murder of the Gemini killer And again supposedly died 15 years before right Executed.

Speaker 1: And as things go on, it leads to this guy that's been picked up, which is, you know, jason Miller, who was the priest in the exorcist.

Speaker 1: They jumped out the window And there's a scene where he's talking and he changes into Brad Derift.

Speaker 1: So you get to see the actual Gemini killer, which is Brad Derift, but he's still in Jason Miller's body And he gets the explanation later on, because the copycat stuff that's going on does not match.

Speaker 1: You know George C Scott talks about that or Kenderman talks about you know, most people will say, yeah, i'm the Gemini killer and I would do this, this.

Speaker 1: And they hid the actual facts from the public of what was really going on And this man that's been captured and put in this cell, jason Miller's character, tells exactly the truth to all this stuff.

Speaker 1: And the use of silence in this movie is incredible.

Speaker 1: It really draws you in.

Speaker 1: The performances in this one is really what makes this movie, because there's so many things you don't see.

Speaker 1: If you're expecting a gore fest, you're not gonna get it.

Speaker 1: You're gonna get explanation and you have to use your mind and that's gonna show you your worst image in your head.

Speaker 1: I prefer those kinds of movies.

Speaker 1: I like the effects, but there's nothing on the screen they're gonna do.

Speaker 1: That's gonna be worse than what I visualize in my head.

Speaker 1: Right, and a lot of people don't like that, but I do because it's kind of like the whole Blair Witch thing, the people that hate it.

Speaker 1: They hate it because you don't see anything.

Speaker 1: It messed me up because what I saw in my head was way scarier than anything they would ever put on the screen.

Speaker 1: Right, that's the magic to this kind of movie.

Speaker 1: I'm not no way former fashion saying this is anything like Blair Witch, don't get me wrong there.

Speaker 1: I'm just saying that this one requires you to take the information you're given and you piece it together, and it's very well done.

Speaker 1: It's again, it's a favorite of mine And I love that.

Speaker 1: Not only is our killer in this other body, but he can pretty much jump from body to body and he uses the elderly because they're easy.

Speaker 1: They're easy to get into And there is some shots in this movie that are totally shocking and the description of things right.

Speaker 1: So Jorsy Scott's best friend, father Dyer, who's again that character's gone through all this stuff, but they're best friends, they go hang out with each other, they go to movies together.

Speaker 1: Matter of fact, one of their favorite movies is It's a Wonderful Life, which really plays into the story of this, which is really disturbing.

Speaker 1: But what's amazing is there's a scene where Father Dyer dies in the hospital and somebody comes in the hospital and they're using this drug.

Speaker 1: I said he, it's really whoever's doing it.

Speaker 1: But they use this drug to slow everything down and the killer cuts off the priest head or the doctor's head yeah, it's the priest head and drains every drop of blood out of the body and places it in little vials and stacks them on a table.

Speaker 1: There's not a smudge, there's not a fingerprint, there's nothing on any of this stuff.

Speaker 1: And not only did it happen and again, not to give away too many clues but later on, when Kenderman goes in and talks to the Gemini killer in the cell, he goes in great detail of how hard it was to do what he did and hates the fact that nobody appreciates the artistic abilities that it takes to do what he did.

Speaker 1: Some movies messed up folks And in a weird way they try to tie everything together, which I kind of have to give it to Bladdy on that too, because who also directed this?

Speaker 1: by the way, this is the first movie I've seen that he had directed, but he really ties in stuff from the second movie that kind of belongs and tries to bring this to an end right.

Speaker 1: And again, i can't say enough about the performances.

Speaker 1: And there's this brilliant popcorn shot that to this day just can't nail the timing on it.

Speaker 1: The timing is so off that you just can't predict just when it happens, and it is one of the most amazing things I've ever seen in a film For you that have seen this, you know exactly what I'm talking about And it's one of those scenes that it still makes the hair stand up on my arms when I see it.

Speaker 1: It's just, it's lightning in the bottle, so it's amazing.

Speaker 1: This film has very few shocking moments.

Speaker 1: that is something visual.

Speaker 1: The most of it is literary right, but this shot is just, it's amazing, absolutely amazing, and this movie deserves a lot more love And I think finally people are starting to get it right.

Speaker 1: One thing I say about Bladdy is he doesn't repeat himself, and that's kind of the curse with a lot of other directors is because once you hit that gold mine, you're doomed to just kind of relive that over and over.

Speaker 1: But none of his movies feel anything the same.

Speaker 1: They're all very different And I kind of like that Ninth configuration is unlike either one of these.

Speaker 1: But for the theme of everything it still fits in very nicely And this movie, i think, is a nice way to put a cap on the end of it.

Speaker 1: And again, this film needs to be celebrated more because there are some really disturbing factors about this.

Speaker 1: That points out again the great battle of good versus evil and what that entails And what does it mean.

Speaker 1: To you personally, this movie is a lot deeper.

Speaker 1: I'm going to say all three of these movies The Exorcist, ninth, configuration and Exorcist 3 is very thought provoking.

Speaker 1: Psychological thrillers, right.

Speaker 1: They really make you think about what side of the fence you stand on and what these things mean to you.

Speaker 1: Everybody's scared of something different And to me, if you believe in the ultimate evil, you've got to believe in the ultimate goodness, and there's this ongoing battle between the two.

Speaker 1: And if you don't believe in that, then that's fine too.

Speaker 1: I mean, it's whatever you believe.

Speaker 1: But at the same time, everybody's scared of something different, and this happens to be the thing that I'm scared of, because there's no doubt that there is evil in this world.

Speaker 1: That's the reason we watch these movies.

Speaker 1: We watch horror movies to help us deal with the real crap that goes on.

Speaker 1: And these movies, even though the Exorcist is probably far-fetched in your mind as far as things that can happen, there's a realism to all three of these that really stands out And I don't know, it puts you on that line and it makes you think about where you stand on stuff.

Speaker 1: I love this movie.

Speaker 1: I do.

Speaker 1: I love it And I'm glad to finally see it getting talked about and respected, because it definitely deserves it.

Speaker 1: There's a lot to unpack in this movie.

Speaker 1: I'm not going to give you much more on it.

Speaker 1: I'll just tell you that if you have not seen the Exorcist 3, even if you're not a fan of the Exorcist, i don't know that you necessarily have to see the Exorcist to really get what's going on in this movie.

Speaker 1: So it does tie into Father Karris right, but for the most part this is a very great standalone movie of not only tying into this ultimate battle of good and evil, but just what the George C Scott's character is dealing with as well, and the fact of the descriptions of this brutality that's going on, i think, is just very thought provoking.

Speaker 1: That's all I'm going to give you on this one.

Speaker 1: This is a five out of five for me.

Speaker 1: No doubt I don't even have to think about it.

Speaker 1: I've just I've always loved this movie, i've always respected it and every time I watch it I'm still blown away by a lot of the stuff in it.

Speaker 1: There's not any really great effects or anything that you really see.

Speaker 1: This is just good middle of the road film making.

Speaker 1: Well, i don't say middle of the road, it's excellent film making, but the, the dialogue, is really what brings it all together and really makes you focus on what's being told.

Speaker 1: You know, if you're not into people describing stuff, this might be a little boring to you, but to me the performances sell this thing so greatly, can't say it enough about.

Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you got three actors that I think are just incredible in this movie, and well, four actually, and I don't know.

Speaker 1: I think you need to check it out.

Speaker 1: It's on to me, yo.

Speaker 1: So y'all give it a give it a look and let me know if you're a fan of this one, let me know your thoughts on it, or if you're not a fan of what?

Speaker 1: what's the problems with it?

Speaker 1: because I'm sure that there's there's things in this that probably you know.

Speaker 1: Again, it's 1990, so you know it's aged a little bit and, like I said, they didn't spend a ton of money on actual effects, but I don't know that it's necessarily needed, right?

Speaker 1: Alright, folks, that's it for this one.

Speaker 1: Hope you enjoyed it, hope you check it out and I hope you let me know what you think about this one.

Speaker 1: And till next time, folks, we will check you later.

Doctor Movie: Episode 180: The Exorcist 3
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